Lombards, Venetians, Englifh, and by all Chris-tendom except France, fhould be received as fuch, and the perfon who tiled himfelf pope Clement be degraded and condemned. This propofal, the two dukes faid, they had been fpecifically .ordered to make'by the three eftates of Eng-land. When the dukes of Berry and Burgundy heard this, to pleafe their coufins of England, and to prevent the treaty from being interrupted, they defired, in a friendly way, to have a litde time to confider what they had propofed. It being granted, they confulted together j and the duke of Burgundy eloquendy and prudently anfwered as follows, to foften the matter to the Englifh dukes : —~c It does not feem to us ar\y way proper that we fhould intermix with our negotiations the dif-pute between the two popes. " My brother of Berry and myfeif are fomewhat furprifed how you could have propofed it, for at the beginning of the conferences you objefted to the prcfence of the cardinal de Luna, who is now at Abbeville as le-gate from the pope,- and refufed to hear any thing he had to fay. We had before determined that when the cardinals elefted Urban for pope, ancj on his death Boniface, the çlêâibns wçre null, for no one either from your country or ours was fum-moned to them ; and the election of him who calls himfelf Clement and refides ^t Avignon is, from the fame caufc, in the like predicament. We do not deny that it would be great charity in thofe who could attcpd to it, to appeafc and put an end to 108