A .D. 1178. THE LETTEB OP THE LEGATE FETEB. 479 honor and respect, should dutifully pay them their firstfruits and tithes, and make answer dutifully and faithfully on all parochial matters. They also laudably asserted, among other things, that alms ought to be given both to the churches and to the poor, and indeed to every one who sought them.21 Although they were said to have previously denied all these points, still they asserted that they did, according to our sound understanding, understand the same. After they had been thus examined by us, and had of their own accord made the confessions already mentioned, .we entered the church of Saint James ; where, together with ourselves, an innumerable concourse of people, which had flocked together, as though to witness a spectacle, heard the confession of their faith read in the vulgar tongue, the same having been written out in the said tongue. After this, when, with all patience and without any tumult, they had been listened to by us and all the people there assembled, and had of their own accord made an end of speaking, inasmuch as the exposition of their faith seemed quite praiseworthy and orthodox, we again asked them in the hearing of all the people, if they believed in their hearts what they had confessed with their lips, and if at any time they had preached the contrary thereof, as they had been often charged with doing. They making answer that they did so believe, and further denying that they had ever preached to any other effect, the noble man the count óf Toulouse and many others, clergy as well as laymen, who had heard them preach what wras contrary to the Christian faith, being struck with the greatest astonishment, and inflamed with zeal for the Christian faith, arose and most clearly convicted them to their faces of having lied. Some in fact steadily asserted that they * had heard from some of them, that there wrere two Gods, the one good and the other bad ; the good one having only made things invisible, and which cannot be changed or corrupted ; the bad one, the heavens, the earth, man and the other things visible. Others again affirmed that they heard at their preaching, that the body of Christ was not made by the ministration of a priest who was unworthy, or who had been convicted of any crime. Many in like manner bore witness that they had' heard them utterly deny that a man and his wife could be saved, if the conjugal debt were satisfied by them. Others 1 1 " Omni petenti " here appears in the form of " omnipotente j " the former is clearly the right reading.